120: Kelowna's Condo Appraisal Gaps & Reinventing Your Purpose with CHASEIT Group's Chase Stevenson

00:00:00 Taylor Atkinson
Welcome back to the Kelowna Real Estate Podcast. I'm your mortgage broker host, Taylor Atkinson.


00:00:02 Matt Glen
And I'm your real estate agent host, Matt Glen. What's happening, Taylor?


00:00:03 Taylor Atkinson
Spring is here, man. Sun's out. Is it ever? It's gorgeous out today. It's nice. Yeah. Had closing weekend at Big White, which was actually awesome. Did you get involved in the slush? What's it called? The slush fest? The slush cup? Yeah, I was there. We watched it. It was awesome, man. It was like 13 degrees out. Yeah, it was a cool way to end the season. A ton of snow, like right before the weekend. they did honestly like some of the better conditions came in the last couple weeks so of the whole season yeah yeah it was kind of a tougher season but the last few weeks were good so i mean yeah it's just one of those colonna things right you finish on the ski hill you come down to the valley pools are opening golf courses are going it's really like we have two seasons in colonna like the shoulder seasons are so short So yeah, good point.


00:00:51 Matt Glen
Yeah. And I noticed that a lot of people were golfing over Easter weekend and few guys I talked to have already been out like four times.


00:00:58 Taylor Atkinson
I love Easter with kids at this age. Not only do I love eating a lot of chocolate, but like there's something about watching like a two and a four year old, just finding Easter eggs. Think like you see the magic. It's so cool. But the other thing with spring for real estate is, you know, normally the spring market kind of comes. things really start to pick up. From what I've seen, been a little bit slower on the residential side.


00:01:21 Matt Glen
For sure. It seemed like it was starting to pick up a bit and then got a little slower. I can't help but think it has something to do with Iran.


00:01:28 Taylor Atkinson
Yeah. So like globally where we're at, interest rates have really gone up on the fixed side. Inflation's probably going up. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Bank of Canada, they're kind of stuck in this position, right? GDP is like essentially flat lines where our economy sucks, but inflation's going up. because of what's going on globally so they don't really have you know a lot of power to move one way or the other in terms of how do you stimulate the economy without getting into inflation again and Vice versa. So, you know, it's been ticking along. But the other part of the market, which I've been working in quite a bit right now, a lot of pre -construction contracts from a couple of years ago starting to close. Yeah. A bunch of these places are closing now. Like this month. Yeah. So some large condos, complexes. And what I've seen on my side for financing is a lot of the appraisals are coming in massively low, you know, like. Purchase contract inclusive of GST is that like 667 and the appraisal comes back at 500. And like legitimately, those are the numbers that we're seeing. So like 167,000 under, you know, what we need it to appraise for. It's kind of a tough market. Matt, what does that look like on scale? Yeah. So you get the report, right? You kind of look through it, you see the comps. obviously you have the ability to kind of push back against the appraiser and say, well, what about these comps? What about, you know, this listing? And initially, like, it's a bit of a knee jerk reaction when you see something coming in, you know, like 160 grand under when it was a 667,000 purchase. But like these appraisers, you know, they have a four year degree and then they've done their appraiser course. Like they're pulling comps that like, it gets pretty hard to dispute. Like they're not, they're not. So it's not like it's just one crazy appraiser. Like there's. a lot of them doing it. Yeah. It's comparables that have recently sold, right? And there just aren't a lot of places that have recently sold in the condo market at those price points. So kind of wanted to highlight how to mitigate it. Obviously some clients, you know, they're buying with over 20% down as a rental property. Some specific lenders do require that full appraisal and that potentially can kill the deal for them. So there's a couple of things to break apart here is financing. If your appraisal comes in low, Well, you have to make up that deficit of like a cash injection from somewhere. So you have to get the 20% or whatever your down payment is of the 500,000.


00:03:43 Matt Glen
you have to get the 20 % or whatever your down payment is of the 500,000. And then the other part is just cash.


00:03:50 Taylor Atkinson
Yeah. So for this specific scenario, right? 80% loan to value or 20% down on a, you know, conventional mortgage. So that can be a non-owner occupied. So, you know, their mortgage amount went down to $400,000 compared to the 80 % loan to value on that first portion. So they were about like $134,000 short they had to come up with to close on this. Now, you know, some clients obviously have that. ability most clients do not there's a couple workarounds is some lenders use what's called like a blanket appraisal where they essentially put a blanket on the entire complex and say you know whatever the purchase contract was two three years ago we're just gonna like tick the box and say it appraises a lot of lenders are going away from that for obvious reasons like there's huge risk because now when they close on that you know at a six hundred thousand dollar mortgage and it's only worth $500,000, like they're very over leveraged, right? So there's massive risk. So most lenders are going away from that. The other kind of workaround is if it's an insured mortgage, like less than 20% down, a lot of times it doesn't trigger a full appraisal. So they'll do like an AVM where it's just waived. entirely, which is even crazier because yeah, they have mortgage insurance, so it protects the lender. But like, you know, with even less down payment, your equity is absolutely negative. So there are still like a few creative ways. I'm not going to say to like get around it, but how people are closing on these properties. But yeah, just something to highlight, like as a optimistic person, I think now is like a very good time if you're looking at buying a condo or a rental property. you know, there's some fairly low prices out there that you might be able to scoop one up because people are having a hard time closing on it.


00:05:33 Matt Glen
You mean at closing, like basically taking the contract off somebody?


00:05:37 Taylor Atkinson
Yeah, people are going to be assigning these or forced to because they don't have the ability to close from a legal point of view. Not sure how that kind of plays out with the developer in terms of if you can't close on that property. You have a fairly large deposit that you got to walk away from. But yeah, that's kind of what's going on the condo side on the single family homes. You can comment to this more, but I'm still seeing some good activity there like single family homes. It's still a strong asset class.


00:06:02 Matt Glen
Yeah, I agree with that totally. Like condos also are still selling like people are still buying condos, but there's just way more for sale than there is buyers. So like just have to be so competitive. Yeah. yeah with all the new ones like there's more new ones coming on it's funny when we started so like i was thinking about this the other day when we started this podcast we would have developers on basically you'd have to have an inside track to a developer to get a contract to buy a condo yeah right like they would sell out before they even hit the market because people would get there and now the pendulum could not have swung farther the other way.


00:06:32 Taylor Atkinson
yeah and that's the thing like people that have purchased these it's not like they made a mistake well like you know financially like it's a hit but I remember there was four of us on individual computers all logged into this portal, whatever it was, like 9am, boom, 9:01, we all submitted, like trying to like secure these contracts and, you know, dumb luck, like we just didn't. get anything except and i was furious at the developer i'm like come on like you just which one was that was that for aqua or for it was yeah it was aqua i'm like these guys just sold like whatever 150 units without even hitting the market like it was a private sale to a bunch of people that were on like a prioritized list and i was like man we missed out and then you know three years later you're like kind of happy.


00:07:15 Matt Glen
that's amazing to change right like and there's a few factors like obviously government decisions have made a huge play in this, like both locally, federally, eventually, like the market, global things. Like there's been a lot of factors going on to this. And I guess that's the risk. Like when you buy a presale, like for the last 20 years, it's been pretty safe investment, right? You buy it, you wait two or three years for it to close. By then the markets went up. You can assign it if you want. You make a lot of money that way. But I guess the other way can happen too. And it's going down where you just kind of get left.


00:07:49 Taylor Atkinson
And that's the thing. This isn't a dig at developers or certain projects at all, right? Like it's just a very tough time in the market where, you know, I've had some clients that are like, well, I'm going to try and renegotiate with the developer. And it's like, okay, yeah. But for the last say 10 years, when you made a hundred grand in equity, is the developer then coming back to you and say, Hey, like the market went up by a hundred grand. Like we need to split the profits a bit. Like it's just kind of that inherent risk that you take. And it's, again, it's not to say that there's not value. in these specific units in terms of like the cost to rebuild and the cost to actually like for materials and labor. It's just the comparable sales right now.


00:08:29 Matt Glen
Yeah, the comparable, that's exactly more. It costs that much to build a house. Like it's not like exactly like if you do like the cost analysis, it makes sense to buy it. But the comparable analysis does not.


00:08:39 Taylor Atkinson
Yeah. And that's based on like comps in the region, what where interest rates are and however many units are coming online. It's just they're not. there yet but i'm sure in a couple years it will balance back out also it's kind of another interesting to think about is like there is like zero new projects coming on for condos.


00:08:51 Matt Glen
Yeah right like i think townhouse there are some in their pipeline but like condos there are is zero so what does this look like in three four five six years from now we're going to be back to having to know the developer and doing background deals to get the contract right what do you think yeah i totally think that i think so too i think it's inevitable i think it's obviously going to happen And it's probably going to happen in I'd say seven to 10 years.


00:09:20 Taylor Atkinson
And that's the thing. Like if you're closing on a property now, don't try and turn around and fire sale it. You know, like you bought it the high selling it. Like real estate isn't a commodity to sell on a day trade. style mentality yeah it's a long -term play for sure it is interesting though that like everyone is pissed with the people that buy the condos and then assign them right like all the speculators and stuff like that but then now that's a good point like should be an anti -speculation tax where we get like a 20 refund on the money we're losing now yeah it's kind of like bad everyone's shutting out of now then it's just like oh well too bad for you yeah it's just funny how things change and we've been sitting here talking about it every week basically from the peak to the drop from now so it's uh


00:09:32 Matt Glen
it's a long -term play for sure it is interesting though that like everyone is pissed with the people that buy the condos and then assign them right like all the speculators and stuff like that but then


00:09:41 Taylor Atkinson
now that's a good point like should be an anti-speculation tax where we get like a 20 refund on the money we're losing now yeah


00:09:49 Matt Glen
it's kind of like bad everyone's shutting out of now then it's just like oh well too bad for you yeah it's just funny how things change and we've been sitting here talking about it every week basically from the peak to the drop from now so it's uh It's funny you're watching it.


00:10:02 Taylor Atkinson
Yeah. Yeah. Well, to kind of talk about our guest today, awesome guest kind of connected with him quite a while ago, Chase Stevenson, old div one hockey player, you know, kind of got forced out of the hockey scene due to concussions. But what I really liked and, you know, we try and have one or two of these shows a year is, you know, you're talking about a guy born and raised in Kelowna full circle has come back to Kelowna, but has like the entrepreneurial spirit and is really like. repurposed his life in terms of trying to help others he's one of those people in Kelowna that he's really trying to build a community and prioritize things in life correctly and I think it's a good mental and physical reset once in a while to have these conversations so yeah that's why it spoke to me so much


00:10:43 Matt Glen
yeah he is obviously successful at everything he does and he's doing the right things he pivoted had it sounds like a couple like aha moments and life changes and moved on and adapted and yeah now his focus as you hear in the episode is just Wants to build community. Like his businesses are going to be more community focused than like kind of priority driven. He's doing it right. Sounds like he got some good ideas in the pipeline.


00:11:04 Taylor Atkinson
I mean, my big takeaway with these kinds of conversations is like, it's always about investing in yourself and your family and prioritizing, you know, your mental and physical health over anything else. And then the rest of the dominoes will fall into place. So yeah, if you want to reach out to chase, obviously listen to the episode, but touch base with him on Instagram. He's doing some pretty cool things.


00:11:23 Matt Glen
A hundred percent. Yeah. It was a fun episode. All right, guys, enjoy the show. This show, like every show, is sponsored by Century 21 Assurance Realty, the main branch. It's in Kelowna. We're everywhere. We're in Kamloops, Salmon Arm, Kootenays, everywhere in between. Residential realtors, commercial realtors, property managers. If you need a real estate professional, Century 21 Assurance Realty, brokerage, you should call. And also, if you're a professional looking for brokers to hang your hat, also brokers to call. Enjoy the show, you guys.


00:11:53 Taylor Atkinson
Okay, Chase, welcome to the show. Thanks for joining us, man.


00:11:56 Chase Stevenson
Yeah, thanks for having me, guys.


00:11:58 Taylor Atkinson
Yeah, thanks for coming on. So you just got back from Texas. Obviously, we can kind of get into where you are now in a little bit, but just to start to give our listeners some background, I follow you on social media. I saw you put out a post, it was like six weeks, maybe two months ago, kind of where you started in terms of like, quote unquote. you know, career and education and the direction you were going and then why you pivoted and maybe changed some life priorities. So if you can comment on, maybe take us back to that post of where you started and where you came from, and then we can kind of break it down from there.


00:12:31 Chase Stevenson
Yeah, totally. It's been quite a unique journey for myself over the last few years. My background's originally in sports. I grew up playing hockey, went to the US for college. I played division one hockey there where I was the captain of one of the biggest programs in the United States. An amazing experience. So grateful for that. And then I signed with the Boston Bruins out of college, which was a great opportunity. It had always been a goal of mine to play in the NHL. Really all I'd ever considered, to be totally honest with you. And then I had to retire due to concussions. I'd had over 20 plus concussions and I was left in a place of feeling like I had lost my identity. My identity as a person had always been about sports and being a high performer. So a big piece of my ego, I think, led me to Wall Street. I had a master's in finance degree. I'd always been an extremely competitive student. I was the graduation speaker at my university. I spoke in front of over 50 ,000 people there. And I leveraged that experience to get a job on Wall Street. Got a job at Deutsche Bank, which is the third biggest bank in the world, and lived the New York lifestyle. Extremely fast -paced. Had this big -time job. I wore the suit every day. They opened the door for me every morning. Good morning, Mr. Stevenson type thing. I was living this life that I thought I always wanted. that a lot of people would look at me and be like, man, that guy's got it all going for him. And I would hear that all the time. But inside, I was really the emptiest I'd ever been. I felt like I had no purpose in life. I had this amazing job when I was making a really good salary for a young guy, but I lacked purpose. And as you kind of alluded to, I ended up stepping away from that with no real plan and no direction. But what I knew I wanted was the opportunity to have a positive impact on people. and the world and to make a change in my life. And I ended up moving back to Kelowna and really rebuilding. You grew up in Kelowna? I grew up in West Kelowna. My parents are in West Kelowna. I went to eight different schools, I think in Kelowna for hockey or just like around the area, Penticton, a country, but yeah, home is Kelowna.


00:14:24 Taylor Atkinson
Man, that is an awesome intro, like a lot to impact there. Most importantly, I know concussions have kind of removed you from the sport, but you know, if Matt and I needed you as a sub on our hockey team, would you? You know, playoffs are coming.


00:14:39 Chase Stevenson
I still get asked all the time to come out and play and I haven't played in a while because I'm such a competitive guy. Like we'll get into kind of what I'm doing now that if I go out there, I've got one speed. So I say to people, it's really a lose -lose for me because I either go out and I dominate and people are like, this guy's that loser that dominates. Or I don't try and they're like, brought me out there and you're like, this guy was supposed to be good. Yeah. We can talk about.


00:15:08 Taylor Atkinson
Yeah, I love it, man. So what was the catalyst to change? Like you felt empty. You felt like you had no purpose. Did Kelowna bring you back? And then you kind of started more of the entrepreneurial fitness, wellness lifestyle or what happened?


00:15:20 Chase Stevenson
Originally, it was just, I knew that there was. a different lifestyle out there than I wanted. I was a young guy. I have a ton of energy and I was working in an environment where it was pretty much do this every day. I wouldn't have the opportunity to be creative. And so not to say that, you know, I'm like an anti nine to fiver. Absolutely not. It was just I was in a situation where I didn't see myself flourishing. And I also miss Kelowna. Kelowna is such a beautiful place. I lived in the US for 10 years and I was living in New York City, surrounded by buildings. And I'm a guy who loves to go run in the mountains. And I ended up moving back here to Kelowna. I'd had an opportunity before I moved back to start a supplement company and a regenerative farm. So I moved back, total change of pace, but I started this supplement company with a local business partner here and we had a ton of fun building that out. But that's what brought me back really was this beautiful place and the opportunity to be close to my family.


00:16:13 Taylor Atkinson
That's awesome, man. I hear like... Wolf on wall street, which into like a more of a holistic approach in life. You're still a competitive athletic person. So what are you kind of doing now? Cause you've exited out of that supplement company.


00:16:26 Chase Stevenson
Yeah, so we started, it was called Little Acre Farms. My original goal and right was called Little Acre Farms is I want to build out remote working spaces that are centered around health and wellness. So I saw these in New York. It's a remote working space where people come on a daily basis. They've got their food grown for them on site. There's a chef that makes their food. They've got gym, sauna, ice bath, coffee shop to work in. They have the opportunity to spend time with animals on the property. Really combining a lot of these places you're seeing pop up in Kelowna like these remote. working spaces and the sauna ice bath place and then the big fancy gyms with the spas etc to combine that in one place so that was our idea with little acre farms and then we also had a supplement and my business partner wanted to really push the supplement for it I was really focused on the property. So we ended up just saying, let's flip ways. So they're continuing on with, it's called the feel good. It's in nature's fair. It's around the local community. So I built that supplement myself, really built that business up with my business partner and they kept going. So for anyone out there that wants a great whole food supplement, I built it for myself originally. So.


00:17:29 Taylor Atkinson
Nice. I actually used that a few months ago, randomly before kind of seeing your post. So it was more of like, correct me on this, but it was like. turmeric beets like it's just natural ingredients ground down in like capsule form right?


00:17:41 Chase Stevenson
yeah yeah it's like a superfood so you asked me what i'm doing now so now i act as a holistic health coach so i mentor a lot of young people as well as work with elite entrepreneurs and athletes helping them really coordinate their life in terms of nutrition health and wellness overall mindset workout programs really like an all -encompassing program to really maximize their life like i'm someone that really believes you don't have to take shortcuts and aspects of your life. I'm someone who tries to be a high achiever in all aspects of my life. So yeah, now I'm doing holistic health coaching as well as competing myself. I do high rocks, it's called. So high rocks is the fastest growing sport of all time. It just got announced. It's going to go into the 2032 Olympics. So I'm hoping that I'm going to have the opportunity to compete in the Olympics. What is high race? Yeah, so it's a mix of running and strength. So it's not popular in Kelowna, which I think it will be. It's a sports that I think will catch on in Kelowna being kind of like the fad fitness scene that you have here. But it's a European sport. It's a mix of running and strength. So you run a kilometer and then in between that next kilometer, you do a strength exercise. So like pushing a really heavy sled. or doing farmer's carries with heavy weights. It's the same competition every time. It's kind of a spinoff on CrossFit. It's a little more functional than CrossFit. Like the average person, let's say, could do it over CrossFit.


00:18:56 Taylor Atkinson
Yeah, very cool. I see a lot of, at least in our industry, like in the real estate industry or in sales, people always comment like, oh, old athletes are great at sales because they're super competitive and they just go after it and they don't like failure, so they just go, go, go. I actually kind of see it a different way. I think athletes, are so good at anything is just because they're specifically like, they prioritize health and wellness and fitness still. And I think like, I mean, this is just me biasedly giving my opinion on it. Like, I think if you're focusing on yourself, you're invested in yourself, you're healthy, like you're watching the intake of your food and output of your calories and stuff. I think that sets you up for success in the day. But in your like coaching on wellness and for entrepreneurs and high level performers, like what are the key takeaways? Like, what are you seeing? If we can kind of provide value to the listeners today, like what sets apart the successful people in anything in life?


00:19:49 Chase Stevenson
I'll backtrack a little bit. So I couldn't agree more with you that, you know, being an athlete, you just learn a lot of different skills, but I don't think it's just being an athlete. It's people who look at their life and want to maximize all the aspects. particularly health and wellness. Because what I talk about all the time, and I truly believe to my core, if you don't prioritize your self -development first or your health, then you can't be the best person for those around you. You're not going to be the best real estate agent. You're not going to be the best chase coaching others. You're not going to be the best, whatever it might be, parent, whatever it is. So a lot of what we're talking about, number one, starts with health. And the biggest thing within health. currently for me is the food we're putting in our body how are you fueling your body there's so misinformation online of how to be healthy and to me it really starts with just getting back to grassroots to taking care of yourself spending time in nature eating whole foods Who are you spending your time with in terms of the relationships in your life? Are those people moving you forward? Are they positive influences? Are they bringing you down? These are like really simple things that has helped people really look at their life and say, well, how can I improve my life? How can I be a better father or mother? And what does that look like for me? Because often it's the really simple things that we need to get back to. Like I help a lot of people to lose weight, right? And they've worked with all these people before. I'm too busy or I want to lose weight. Well, the first thing I look at is what are your chronic stress levels? What are your cortisol levels? Like we're just so out of whack as humans because we spend so much time on devices and just doing things that we weren't meant to do as humans. So if you can get back to simple things like getting five minutes of morning sunlight in the morning, I teach a lot of breath work. how to just calm yourself down. It's these really simple practices that I think your listeners could implement into their lives that have a huge impact because it's not the pharmaceuticals and it's not going to the doctor more. It's always going to be the self -work and that makes the biggest impact.


00:21:43 Taylor Atkinson
It's crazy how much stress has caused diseases, right? So if you have the ability to control that or mitigate that a little bit, then that's a huge win. If someone wants to work with you, kind of what's the program? How do they reach out to you? How do you get started?


00:21:58 Chase Stevenson
Totally. Yeah. The majority of my clients come to me through social media. I'd like to say that I'm someone where people come to me after they've tried a lot of other people. And I don't know if that's a great business model. But yeah, in terms of actually getting a hold of me, majority of people come to me through my Instagram or just through I have a website. It's Chase It Group. I also invest in early stage startup health and wellness companies. So that's a big piece of my website. People can find me on Instagram at Chase Stevenson. But most importantly for me, it's about helping design a lifestyle for people that allows them to work towards becoming their best self. For me, for a long time, like I did personal training. Well, what I realized really quickly and where I think a lot of personal trainers are missing is they don't look at somebody's entire life. Like I said, if someone wants to come in and lose weight, well, I can put them on the treadmill. But if their stress levels are extremely high, that's what's a big reason behind it. And their hormones are out of whack. Like women who want to lose weight, it's like, well, a lot of the time their hormones are so out of whack, it doesn't matter what they do. They're fighting an uphill battle. So for me, it's about looking at someone's entire life and then taking a holistic approach to help them change their life. And that's where I get the most reward too. And purpose, like we started the podcast with, is me seeing and helping people have a tangible change in their life.


00:23:17 Matt Glen
Do you work with people like in person? Or is it online? Like, is everybody local to Kelowna?


00:23:20 Chase Stevenson
local to Kelowna? I mainly work with people online. I love working with people in person. That's just me. I found it tough, honestly. Just in the world we live in, you know, everything is online for the majority. But for me, having the opportunity to work, like, I don't take on a ton of clients, but working with just two people locally, like, those are my favorite days because I get the opportunity every week to see the progress that that person's having. Or like a lot of the time I'll sit there and we're just talking about their life as well. It's a lot easier to become more vulnerable or really get into it when you're in person. And we're missing that. We're losing that as a society. Everyone wants to be online or glued to their phones. And for me, I've always been an in -person guy.


00:23:59 Matt Glen
Yeah. This podcast started out with all of our interviews in person and now they're pretty much all virtually. Not all, but lots.


00:24:05 Chase Stevenson
Yeah. I think for the same reasons.


00:24:09 Taylor Atkinson
Yeah. Yeah. Totally. You said you're still focusing on the property side. What are you building out there?


00:24:15 Chase Stevenson
Yeah, when I say focusing, so really it's at a standstill. I mean, I've had multiple people. I think this is just the universe maybe telling me where to go. But I've had a few investors reach out to me saying like, hey, I have this idea. You seem like a guy who I think could make it happen. And then they pitched me the exact idea for what I started. That's happened twice in the last two weeks. I think that might be a sign, but the biggest piece is I've met with the city twice about making this happen in Kelowna. It's just going to be really difficult to do it in BC with. regulations and having a lot of the things that I want to build out in one property. It's been tough. I mean, I've been looking for the right property here just on the outskirts of the city because I want it to be a farm, quote unquote. To me, a big piece is that you're removing yourself. You're not going downtown to the Innovation Center to work. You're going to spend the day at the farm, but it's also close enough for you and your family where you can shoot back into town. It's close. You're not going to be going there every day, but it's an escape. It's an escape for you to go and focus and reset your health. And then we'd have health practitioners on site. So that's where it's at is an idea. So I love it, man. Yeah.


00:25:23 Taylor Atkinson
Sounds awesome. Where are you off to next? You got a bit of a trip on the books?


00:25:26 Chase Stevenson
Yeah. The next few months are going to be crazy. Like this year, I think about 2026, I've been all over only in Kelowna for two weeks, but I'm, yeah, I'm going to Egypt for a month and then New York city for a month and then back to Kelowna for a bit of the summer. I definitely want to spend more time here. We're pretty fortunate with where we live. So yeah,


00:25:43 Taylor Atkinson
I love the fact that like. you've been gone, you experienced like a bunch of places, much like myself. And then Kelowna just draws you back. It tends to draw back like the entrepreneurial spirited people as well. So it sounds like you got big things ahead of you. If people want to reach out to you, best way, Instagram, website. Yeah. How can we connect listeners with you?


00:26:03 Chase Stevenson
Yeah, they can find me on Instagram, C underscore Stevenson 13. So just chase Stevenson, they'll find me. And then yeah, chase a group. I've got my contact information on there for people to reach out. For me, it's really if I could have more people locally, especially have the opportunity to work with them. I'm also just a community builder. When I first moved back from New York, I was struggling to get connected with a lot of like -minded people. Let's say people who are driven, a lot of young people, and I knew they were here in Kelowna. So I started throwing these big sauna ice bath groups. I had like 150 people at one of these. Like it ended up being a party, which I was not really looking to have it be. But like we had two huge saunas going. We had tunes going in there. We had the big hot tub, ice baths, organic food. Yeah, I'm also just big on community. So anyone who wants to connect with me, I'm always happy to connect with people who are looking to grow or just looking for someone to help push them in their lives. I'm always going to the track or doing like open workouts, which is really just me working out and people come join and be like, wow, this guy's out of his mind.


00:27:05 Taylor Atkinson
I love that, man. I saw that. It was a while ago, maybe four or five months ago, like the sauna part. party i'm like that is wicked i don't know if it's just as we're getting older or if it's just kind of now the new thing not to be unhealthy like we used to do just yeah you know binge drinking on the weekend i was like that is wicked like you can get those endorphins that kind of natural high from you know stressing in the sun and jumping in a cold plunge and just hanging out with healthy people at a good energy so yeah yeah i appreciate what you're doing in the okanagan.


00:27:33 Matt Glen
ChaseIi need to know are you still involved in the hockey scene at all are you doing anything with the No. Or locally or anything?


00:27:38 Chase Stevenson
I haven't. So I left this out of the story, but when I first left investment banking in New York, I felt like I hadn't given New York a true try. Investment banking is you're working, like working. And so I hadn't had the opportunity to enjoy New York. So I ended up coaching hockey in New York privately. And yeah, I ended up making more money coaching hockey than I did in investment banking. Coaching investment bankers, kids. Exactly. Exactly. I made more connections doing that. I'm coaching, you know, the kid of the CFO of Goldman Sachs. I'm seeing him every Wednesday night, you know, like, how's it going, Chase? And that was who I was coaching. New York City, an hour to rent the ice at the one rink in New York is $2 ,600 an hour. So think like, who's renting that ice, right? So, yeah, I'm not involved in the hockey scene locally. I'd like to. I love coaching still. I also feel like I just have so much knowledge to share. I'm sure at some point I definitely will. Like for me, it's also one of those things I'm a bit sour about hockey. Like it's tough. Like I don't play anymore. That's the real reason is because it is still something where it's so fresh and I'm like, who knows what it could have been. Yeah. So, but at the same time, that's also just me. Like I need to get over that. I have so much knowledge to share and if I can help some young kid. work towards this goal is like there's no better feeling so i will have to get back involved.


00:29:03 Matt Glen
That's awesome chase yeah it's too bad but it sounds like you're making the most of it kind of learning.


00:29:07 Chase Stevenson
Yeah how it’s going every day and i'm always doing something and working towards something so yeah it shows.


00:29:13 Taylor Atkinson
Good for you if you want a good laugh our last season game is this friday and then it's playoffs we weren't Div 1 you know we're Div 8 but uh yeah


00:29:21 Chase Stevenson
Div 1 is too good. Div 1 is like, is there fights and stuff? In the beer league sometimes, yeah. Yeah, that's what I mean. Like, I'm out on that. I don't need that.


00:29:30 Taylor Atkinson
Totally. Yeah. All right, man. Well, thank you so much for your time today. And yeah, I look forward to connecting with you in the community. And yeah, hopefully we see some property development in the future for you.


00:29:41 Chase Stevenson
Yeah. Thank you guys for having me. I appreciate your time.


00:29:43 Matt Glen
Yeah. Thank you, Chase.